>> it's amazing. you ever tried one, yourself? >> no. >> it's not easy. >> leave it to the expert. >> yeah, there's something very, very magical going on. >> i saw you watching closely. >> yeah, i didn't learn anything. i'm trying, though. >> no, i don't think too many of us have that interconnection to the stones. >> you have to, like, slowly, like -- >> my girlfriend? >> yeah, something like that. >> that's just -- i don't think that's possible. i mean, it's just so -- like many things in life, it ain't so easy. unless, of course, you're manuel. that's a hard rock, isn't it? >> no, it's not. it's so easy. >> is it easy? >> yeah. >> because it seems hard. you say this is relaxing, huh? >> yep. >> there's a little trial. and a little error.