communicating at that point in time is -- like i've said before, it just may have not have been a priority then and there. >> mitchell, that is a good question. initially that's what we said. you're right. that's the first thing everyone said. why wouldn't they communicate some sort of emergency. >> well, it's true that you aviate first. you navigate. but communication is not far behind. it's not like it's 50th on the list. these guys sounded like they were aviating and navigating. they turned. they had a destination for that turn. they were aviating fine. the airplane. to me communication was right there. >> we should also point out in order to communicate it's not like you have to reach up and turn on a radio or turn a knob. there's a simple lever oen the back of the yoke. it's a switch your hand is already on if you've got your hand on the yoke. you click it and talk. it's that simple. and in almost all the other emergencies that have been declared, you take a look at value jet that went down in just over three minutes.