pointing a pastry. >> this is outrageous. this is the school going way overboard. it's a pastry. he's a 7-year-old kid. even if he did make it into a gun on purpose and say bang bang, the fact that we're talking about this, that they're on tv because they suspended -- >> for two days. >> for two days. it's just outrageous. our schools have got to get their act together, and they can't overreact to stuff like this. it's outrageous. >> we have so many problems with the educational system in america. for us to spend time grilling a 7-year-old over what he did with a pastry, it just makes me really sad. >> let me play devil's advocate. >> about the world. >> let's say the next kid is not a pastry, but now they fashion something out of -- >> it's a steak. >> now they fashion something out of, let's say, wood. and then the next kid actually goes ahead and does something a little further. isn't -- i agree with you. it's a little ridiculous.