by the way, you know, we're addressing these most visible examples. members of congress are flying around the country, so they're feeling that. but there are seniors who get help through meals on wheels. there are kids in head start programs. there are people who don't have as strong a political voice who are already hurting right now. so let's address the entire sequester which also, by the way, is having a very disruptive impact on job growth. >> congressman, you're looking to have a conference committee between the house and the senate budget plans right now. you don't actually think we're anywhere near doing something like that or close to a resolution, do you? >> well, the first step, john, is of course to have these talks. you know, the senate has now passed a budget. the house has passed a budget. we don't yet have a common budget for this coming year. for the government. which is why we've been calling for what is the next step in the budget process, which is to go to conference to try and iron out these differences. and again, we're very