battle side by side and said, we are united in saying we should fund government, but we should not fund obama care. now, one of the things that might have played out differently, one of the most revealing exchanges and an exchange you were a part of when you asked harry reid about the funding for nih. when the government was shut down, the house passed 14 bills to fund vital government priorities. the democrats objected to all of them. they sat on harry reid's desk. he wouldn't allow a vote. every one of them was a clean bill, so you had a bill to fund the veterans administration -- >> their strategy won. >> it did, but here is why. >> they were successful. they beat you all back. >> the question you asked harry reid about nih funding, if you could save just one kid with cancer, wouldn't you want to do that? and his answer, which was stunning, why would i want to do that? and then he attacked you personally. >> sorry, i'm a big girl, i can take it. >> i have no doubt about that, but do you know why he attacked? because he was vulnerable.