>> on campus we have a great culture at n.c. state and we always need to take steps to go further. a critical challenge is to overcoming the issue of race in america is we have to acknowledge it's a problem. we have to come to a table with all groups, recognize implicit biases, all sides have to be involved in the situation. the first step is we all have to admit this is a real problem. >> i think that's one of the many reasons that the video in oklahoma took people by surprise that are older, because older people think of you all as post-racial. there was an article by a a researcher and he talks about specific data points. he said millennials are more racist than they think. what do you think of that? >> nobody wants to read that headline. i remember reading it. being upset. but this idea of post racialism in our generation is good news and bad news. it's good news because it's possible to think that. if the oakklahoma bus incident