them there's a judicial process in iran it needs to go through. we try and remind them that there are laws over there and have them remind the iranians that they're just not following their own laws. >> i had the pleasure of meeting your brother in iran in 2009 covering the election protests. i even interviewed him at the time. and i've asked iranian officials about his case. and that's the answer that they will come back with saying that we have a judicial process, we have to follow the judicial process. but the fact is this is very much about politics. one of the reads here is that the hard-liners in iran are punishing or embarrassing the more moderate factions. do you feel that you and your family and your brother have been caught up not just between u.s. and iran but within iran a political conflict inside iran? >> you can't help but think that. i mean you know the uniqueness of the case the fact that it's gone on for so long it's so different than any other cases without any evidence against him, to hold him for nine months without a trial. there's got to be other things going on. but things he doesn't control.