politician. we've seen the pope the head of state. weaver seen the social activist. we've seen the brother of the bishops. it's been fascinating to see him in so many different facets doing his thing. >> what strikes you about the pope's visit today? >> we catholics call him the holy father. he reaches out at a conference on families in a very inclusive way. many in my church like to hurl thunder bolts in a very judgmental way. the church teaching is very clear in opposition to same-sex marriage. even when he talked about it today, he did it in way that welcomes people in. i think this is really a powerful lesson for his brother bishops or all of us in the church. going to the prison this morning, powerful example again of including everyone. in his talk he makes a quote