about it? and that is a more complex question. which is do you look at censure, or do you look at impeachment? what does impeachment entail. this is where it is worth everybody reading david brooks' column of last week because he argues articulately that what is done here is wrong but the question is what do you do about it and that is where it does become more complex? do i want to set this precedent? no. >> again and again politics be damned and being politically prudent be damned, jake, we have a president who stood in front of his country and said i want a foreign government interfering in our election. that can't be accepted. that is wrong. that is impeachable on its face. >> i want you to respond and play some sound been. >> no, but -- wait, wait. what you don't want to do, what you don't want to do is give trump the reason to be able to say i was absolved of guilt.