people will say when you don't show your anger i think voters get a little questioning. >> let's talk about the substance for a second. biden has been pushing back. for the third time the prosecutor in ukraine has said there's no evidence of wrong dong by hunter biden. there is the question of the appearance of impropriety or potential of conflict of interest according to david ignatius who writes biden deserves blame. putting aside the false trump conspiracy theories, biden used poor judgment in playing a role in ukraine of his son hunter was working for ukrainian gas company. denying this obvious fact only weakens the democrat's case against trump. does david ignatius have a point? >> i think he does. it's a strange point in the context of the point that the