america, make some dough on the side. he's got a warped sense of humor more. when i heard that idea, i thought to myself, you know, what if i really did that, what would it take? and then i thought, well, i made money doing bad, why would i make money? >> lung cancer. >> we pitched "breaking bad" to not even a handful of places. some people liked it, some people not so much. it had kind of been dead for six months or a year or something like that. suddenly i hear, would you like to go meet the folks at amc, they're interested in doing "breaking bad." >> surprise! >> we were making the decision to do "breaking bad," we absolute thely were looking for an antihero show. and we wanted a guy that was going against the grain. >> dad, come check this out. come on, take it.