>> for all of us, the computer revolution was really exciting. it was like, wow, this is wide open. >> it was a group of people who want to make a change in the world. >> and eventually, the two forces in silicon valley, the hobbyists and the button-down business guys, ended up coming together when the chipmakers realized the things that the hobbyists were doing could lead to this whole new kind of product called a personal computer. >> it was at a home-grown computer club where steve wozniak and steve jobs first displayed the computer they'd been working on. and it caused a sensation. >> we had absolutely no idea what people were going to do to these things when we started out. as a matter of fact, the two people who it was designed for was woz and myself, because we couldn't afford to buy a computer kit on the market. we got it working and showed it to some of our friends. and of course immediately everybody wanted one. >> woz was the technical genius and jobs was the marketing genius. and you needed both of those kinds of mindsets to actually make this new technology work and create this company out of