the last two, three years it's been conservatives who have attacked this white house for leaks of national security. just during the election there were attacks for allegedly leaking information. so there is a balance here. that balance should be in favor of protecting the first amendment. we should get to the bottom of what happened here. i don't think anybody should be spied upon, whether from fox or cnn or msnbc, but i think we should get to the bottom of this before we allege perjury or otherwise. >> i think one of the issues is that in their leak investigations the prosecutors seemed to be just going to the reporter and trying to figure out who gave the information to the reporter who is not bound by any law that he is not going to disclose secrets. instead of doing a leak investigation within the offices of the government. that is a true fishing expedition. the white house talks about the benghazi spifishing expedition.