can use a minute amount of oily substance that is the print itself, right? >> yes. >> and water can wash that away? >> yes. >> so that fingerprints may have existed on an item that you would lift a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> that's correct. >> even though the gun's been handled by one, two or three people? >> that's correct. >> any other latent work or fingerprint work that you did have anything to do with the zimmerman case? >> no. >> great, thank you. nothing further. >> any redirect? >> no, your honor. >> thank you very much. may the witness be excused? >> she may. >> thank you. you are excused. couns counsel, approach for just a moment, please. >> while the lawyers take a quick side bar, let's talk about the case with our legal experts