nonprofit, to take the raw file of every plan and every price and present it to the american people as open information. there was nothing about that was meant to be hidden. so that information was made available. now, the government itself on healthcare.gov obviously primarily was about making sure that the right person was given the right information and i will also say, as soon as this criticism had come out, it didn't even take a day or two, you can today anonymously shop on healthcare.gov, kind of reflecting this nimble response. >> the administration is refusing to give the numbers of how many people have signed up, how many people are enrolled. originally they said they didn't have the data. now they seem to have it, they just don't want to share it until the middle of november. that seems to suggest that very few people are enrolling and they are waiting for the number to increase. >> look, the commitment was there on transparency. a lot of information is available at data.healthcare.gov and you will see the numbers every month as have been committed. take a look at the "the washington post" yesterday did a