so to murder. >> fascinating case. jim sciutto, thank you so much. the spy swap comes with significant, some would even say detestable strings attached as jim mentioned. the members of the so-called cuban five were not just secret agents. one of them was convicted of conspiracy linked to commit murder. i'm joined by the mother and daughter of two men who were killed in that attack. miriam de la pena is the mother of mario de la pena who was killed in the attack and adriana is the daughter of hando. thanks so much for joining me. marlene, let me start with you. did anyone from the obama administration reach out to you warning you that the prisoner convicted of murdering your husband was to be released. >> it wasn't my husband and it was my father.