the last clinton was president. i mean, my party is now the party that wants experience, but the republicans don't. i mean, i like governor huckabee, but he's fishing where there ain't no fish right now in his party. they want something new and different and they're calling for it. and for him to tell you in that interview that rare moment of air time and says i'm the most experienced. that's not what they want. >> kevin, let's talk about tomorrow night's main debate. huckabee will be in the undercard debate. what are you expecting in terms of trump versus cruz? cruz really nipping at his heels in iowa, at one point he's ahead of trump and nationally he's in second place, the margin depends on what poll you look at, but he poses the biggest threat to trump right now. >> i think when those two have their clash it will be interesting to see how they handle it. first of all i think the one thing that trump is going to come after cruz on is immigration. immigration was what helped donald trump ascend in the polls. and i think there are some areas where the trump folks believe that cruz is vulnerable. the interesting thing will be