there is the no harm, no fall. they got the aid any way. there was that they were kicking the tires and seeing if zelensky was the real deal and if he was going to go after corruption. the president knew about all of this before he spoke to sondland. and the timeline moves back, it really just shatters that part of the narrative. >> when he speaks to sondland on september 9th it sounds like he's reading something that a lawyer wrote for him. he described four or five sentences that begins with no quid pro quo. that means trump is working with people in the white house in full knowledge that there is a whistle-blower report that said quid pro quo and they failed to stop from going to the hill and now he's go the to get on record and it is not good. so this also makes it unbelievable for me that mulvaney and cipollone are not testifying. they have direct knowledge of this and why aren't they testifying? donald trump didn't is want them to. >> but that is a point worth assessing though. >> the question is when we add