your 2020 political opponent, surely that is impeachable without quid pro quo. >> you agree with that. t not the impeachable part. >> it is bad behavior. don't laugh about it. >> it is impeachable. >> it doesn't seem like that laughable. but the question is is it removable. because i think there should be a mark against him for this. i don't think this kind of behavior should go unpunished whether it is censure or the impeachment proceedings themselves because i think there does need to be a marker laid down. removal and i am sort of uncomfortable with and i'm in the position of skeptical swing voters we have an election the year from now and that seems like the way we deal with that and removable is a big step and you have to cond tend that. >> and one, censure doesn't do a lot. it is weak soup. but two, this is a guy showed himself willing to accept the help from a foreign government and a foreign power in the 2016 election, we're saying let's just let the election play out