but there are no doubt americans who feel stranded in afghanistan right now. >> yeah. some of this appears to be, as you pointed out, a message of reassurance. some appears to be parsing words on what exactly is stranded. jen psaki said if you want to get out, the u.s. will go to great lengths to get you out. but the pentagon said that there have been americans who are having trouble getting through taliban checkpoints, who are having difficulties and problems getting to kabul international airport. and that appears to be what she's not acknowledge here, that there are americans having issues, limited numbers, the pentagon says. but it is certainly happening from what we've heard from the chairman of the joint chiefs briefing members of congress. there are problems here even for americans. >> joining us now, the former ceo of the international development finance corporation under president trump working with u.s. negotiators. he has negotiated twice with the taliban senior leadership during the trump administration. adam, thanks so much for joining