up, the tangible improvements for the lives of the afghan people because of nato and the united states occupying and trying to improve things in that country for so long. how are afghans feeling now, however, now that the u.s. troops are gone, now that the taliban is in charge? is there any optimism that these gains can persist? >> i think we're in this really in between phase. people are absolutely panicked when the taliban came in. and those that can got out got out. those that want to got out are still trying. on the streets here today you can see this sort of unease. the men still shaving even though the taliban say get into more religious clothes, get into more traditional clothes. women not wearing the full burqa going out with just scarves on their heads. there's a little space right now and people are feeling out