attitude and, paul, you have been behind the scenes in many strategy sessions like this. but they seem tong the economic package is simply too big to fail and that's going to win the day. that everyone at the end of the day will come around and say if we don't get this over the finish line, then that's it for the biden agenda and, therefore, for our electoral prospects come the midterm elections. i am just not sure if that's going to hold considering how dug in people are right now and how it seems so difficult to actually get to an agreement here. >> i was speaking with a democratic pollster who does a lot of polling for a lot of candidates. the argument is that biden has to succeed. if he fails, you fail. >> yes, exactly. >> and we're all in this together. and so, if infrastructure doesn't get passed or some form of build back better doesn't get passed, it's not going to be everything you want. but if the president is perceived as a failure, then his popularity, which is already going downhill, is going to go down even further and you'll be in more danger no matter what