it's critical to get the right facts so they can make an informed decision. >> let's say for a lot of them it's their concept of freedom and not thinking the government has any right to tell them what shots they have to inject into their body. >> i think the reason that we are -- mandates are in place is because covid is a communicable disease and spreads from person to person easily. when we've seen incredible success with vaccine mandates as it relates to childhood vaccines in school requirements or influenza vaccine in health care settings. so we know with infectious diseases that are spread from person to person, that these mandates really work. and so in this particular situation, where we have a really serious disease that's causing people to be hospitalized and die, these mandates are appropriate. >> tomorrow is a big day for vaccines for kids. a key cdc panel will decide whether or not to recommend this smaller pfizer dose for kids 5 to 11. you used to be on the advisory committee on immunization practices. take us inside the