opposition for some time. but wolf, he said he would continue talking with his colleagues. can they get a smaller deal, something that can get to the president's desk? that's the big question in the new year. >> we'll see what happens. manu, thank you very much. joining us, the senior democratic whip, debbie dingell of michigan, who also serves on the congressional progressive caucus. thank you for joining us. mitch mcconnell says joe manchin would be more comfortable in the gop. is he right about that? >> i think if he would have been more comfortable in the gop, he would have changed parties a long time ago. this is a man who was a democratic governor, he is close friends with joe biden. there have been some policy differences this year but i suspect in the end his comments to i think it was "rolling stone" earlier this year that people love to chatter, they love to gossip, but i think we're going to see joe manchin continue to caucus with the democratic side of the senate. >> i sense you're right.