never had before in serious condition. and many on ventilators. that's just not true. there are fewer than 5,000 minors hospitalized with covid right now. seeing they are on the right. not 100,000. and that include minors who were admitted because of covid and ones who tested positive but had been hospitalized for other reasons. what do you make of this? >> there were a lot of facts and figures thrown out from justices across the spectrum that some of them certainly raised questions from people who really know their stuff on this issue. and i do have to say, justice sotomayor, she is not so much speaking to her colleagues. she's not so much trying to persuade them. she's speaking beyond the walls the court. usually it's breyer and keegan who try to be more persuasive to fellow colleagues with the arguments they're making and the questions they're asking. but even neither of them actually were able to get much traction in the case involving