so of their economy that he is a little bit -- i think he is more cautious. a lot of leaders in europe are. i think at the same time, it was a little encouraging that at least they were together. it wasn't this tense meeting where they were showing all this hesitancy to go in there together. he said i'll be with you without saying what he'll be with him on. it shows the precarious situation. and putin knows that. that's why he's able to move the way he's been moving these past few weeks. >> i think if you piece it together, right? the president said plainly. i wrote it down. if russia invades go tanks or troops across the ukraine border, we will help. the chancellor said we'll all be together. we'll stand together. so i piece those together and say there will be no nord stream two. and i think president biden does have the capacity to end it