think you even the same in the former president who went through a litany of issues that he often talks about just for complete clarity, there's no evidence that the the current president or the white house have anything to do with this current case that he's facing here in new york in the courtroom by me, evan, i want to go to you because i thought beyond this of them, we always hear from the form present what's most fascinating is what preceded that, which was a sandoval hearing where there was an argument over what could be brought into play. >> if the former president testifies, which gives you a good read on what is last year has been named checking judge kaplan? judge and cora judge motion why? well, he's got a lot of fiefs and so he's, he's going to name check every single one of those and literally as as this was happening putting just uptown, there was another hearing, an appeals court hearing, where a judge was hearing a request, a last-minute requests for a stay. again, they're trying to