obamacare, that is basically the entire republican playbook. >> that's not going to go away. the republicans have to make a decision about that. if the technical issues on the website get better, they have to decide are they still the party of repeal or are they just the party of trying to tweak it and fix the law. fix it or repeal it. on immigration reform, the one republican in the house that proved to have credibility with the right and the ability to sort of unlock a bipartisan deal was paul ryan. he seems to be the one guy on the house side and republican side that could perhaps put together a bipartisan deal on immigration reform in the house. >> i think he's the guy that you have to watch on that issue. minimum wage is going to be for democrats what obamacare is for republicans. there's no chance the house will do anything on that issue. but democrats are going to use this to sort of demagogue and just as republicans use obamacare as a rallying cry. immigration is that one spot, if paul ryan is able to duplicate what he did with the budget deal, you could actually see a substantial change to immigration laws in this country.