notion of running for president. and there are significant questions about whether or not, for instance there should be a path to citizenship. in a general view i know you're not laying out your immigration proposal now, but in a general view the 12 million or so undocumented immigrants in this country, should they have an ability to become citizens or would you think it's okay to have a second-tier status what hillary clinton called second class status? >> listen let's talk about secretary clinton for a second. the pandering going on by secretary clinton is really the thing that disgusts people about american politics. the fact is that all of a sudden she's had this epiphany that she wants to go to the left of president obama. i didn't know there was room to the left of president obama on an issue like this but that's apparently where she's headed. i'll give a thoughtful complete answer if i'm a candidate, but let me say this. what she's doing right now is