fifth. >> thank you. let's dig deeper now. joining us, jeffrey toobin and elie honig. jeffrey, how csignificant is it to see top advisers go to speak to the select committee? >> well, you know, wolf, this isn't a prosecution, but the committee is approaching it more or less like a prosecution. they are working from the bottom up, from the outside in. and they are finding witnesses who were one or perhaps two steps removed from the president and finding out what they know. the interesting political part of this is that even though former vice president pence is publicly loyal to the former president, his staff doesn't seem as happy with donald trump and they are telling what they know unlike the people closest to trump. >> well, about that, what does