pelosi said she's not a big fan. we have sharon brown from ohio and he thinks it's a bad idea. the governors of pennsylvania and wisconsin were on my show, purple swing states saying this is a very, very bad idea. >> right. >> let's talk about the politics of it. is this dividing democrats and scaring independents away? >> well, it shouldn't divide democrats, but regardless of what those folks say with lots of respect to them, i have delved into all of the polling across the country. i went to business school. i love data. i am a pragmatist when it comes down to it and the polling says a very different story. >> what does it is a? >> the polling says two-thirds of the country, 66% of the people across the country think that medicare for all is a great idea. van, can you think of another policy in this country where two-thirds of the american people agree? and look at impeachment as an example of what happens when democrats unite around a message, polling moves. polling is not static. so you can move it, but we just