our kids or drill it into them. you know, there is no such thing as privacy anymore. i don't care what delete says. there is no delete. once it's out there, it's out there. we have to have consequences. and realize that. >> lisa, why do you -- listen, i took moat to what mark said. mark said the perceived anonymity. why do you think we have people go online and risk so much to have an affair? and as noel was saying, listen, it's not illegal. people are wanting to do it. they're consenting. but still, there is a huge risk here especially if you're look at the story that we're profiling tonight. >> look, some people are just sleazebags, and they're always going to be. and they're going to find whatever they want to find online. i have a little different perspective respectfully from jayne and mark. i run a civil rights firm. my best evidence is an electronic evidence, video, audiotape, text the, e-mails, in a sexual harassment case, what the boss sent by e-mail to his