together, and some of the witnesses said that the landing gear that it kind of bounce edd a little bit, and they could tell right up front that it was not a good solid hit on the ground. >> and runway length has nothing to do with it, because when i land at la xward ya, it is almost immediately, they put on the brakes and if you rare not holding, everything is going to fly forward. >> yes, and that is the stress reversers, and if you can't get the thrust reversers out in time the short runway is definite ly definitely an issue. >> let's listen to the port authority, and what they said. they said that the conditions on the run wayway before the accident were acceptable, and that the runway was plow and in good condition. take a listen real quick. >> shortly before the incident of approximately 11:05 two planes landed and reported good braking action on the runways and this particular runway had been plowed shortly before the incident. and the pilots on other planes had reported ded good braking