the obvious tragedies, but it's also the silence from organizations that claim to speak on behalf of lawful gun owners. i remember when philando castile was killed back in 2016. another lawful gun owner. your organization released a statement even in support of the idea about lawful gun ownership then. but i wonder initially why do you think there is the silence from other organizations that proclaim similar viewpoints about second amendment rights, but this is the category where silence results? >> yeah. i think it's difficult for organizations to take a bold stance, especially if it's something that may cause division among their membership. i can't speak for other organizations, but i think our -- we've built a culture around our organization, our members, and our supporters expect us to do the right thing and to always speak on behalf of lawful gun ownership and in defense of the second amendment. >> you know, to be fair, i'm