threatening or threaten the airplane to the extent that in a lot of these cases the airplanes are gettingdiverted, right? that in itself is a dangerous thing in terms of moving airplanes from their flight plans. then we agree, right? in other words, you want the bar to be high enough, violence or threat of violence. but the idea that these guys who are threatening flight attendants get to have a heckler's veto over a federal mandate rule regarding masks on a highly -- in a highly regulated industry is ridiculous. i'm not having this debate. i'm not going to have the masking debate. there is a rule, right? >> and yet, juliette, i hear you on the debate you don't want to have. but i see you nodding scott and thinking about that. when it comes down to it, this is in fact the debate that's happening on capitol hill in some respects, not because it's about whether it's stupid or not, but the debate of and the notion of, look, i'm not comfortable just saying let's avoid having to have a conversation about passengers