it's like the kernel of truth that feeds the qanon conspiracy theory. tell us how those two things work together? >> sure, the most durable and most believable is percy theories are not entirely false, there's something in them that is true and the rest is false but the believers point to the one true thing and say you don't believe this particular thing is true but in terms of child trafficking, we know trafficking is real, it has real victims and nobody is denying that, but the films are created out of moral panic and bogus statistics, out of fear and was something like the sound of freedom, specifically looking at qanon concepts, these child trafficking rings run by the high-level elites and only people like tim ballard and jim caviezel and by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can help bring them down, there is a very participatory element, you're not just killing two hours on a hot day, you are helping to