states jeb bush and marco rubio do very well against hillary clinton, donald trump much less so. we're going to find as we go on voters will start to make decisions based not just on the passionate fervor but they're going to make more rational decisions about the direction of the country and the quality of leadership they need. the reason trump's velocity has slowed down so much is people saw in the last debate and they've seen on the trail that this guy shoots from the lip all the time and it's one thing to consider that refreshing and new and an outsider. it's another thing to consider it a political case of terret's syndrome without any consequence or rational. >> you sat down with donald