guns in their campaigns. is that changing now, do you think? >> i think it is because i think that you just have seen so many funerals and funerals and, i mean, i think that usually the american system, america's government would do something and it would pass some bill and pass a resolution. it would do something about all this and yet the nra, now run by the gun manufacturers, not by hunters, but by gun manufacturers, has stopped all bills, even small bills, and so now i think there's a pentup demand for something to happen. i think hillary clinton is tapping into that. this was a no-go zone for democrats for years, but when you can't even pass a little bill, then sometimes you wind up having a dam break. >> i want to get to charles on this. any hope left for the others on the stage, o'malley, chaffee, webb? >> no, no, no, no. they shouldn't even have been up there. webb i think arrived at wrong debate i think he was supposed