>> the thing that gives people hesitation is that his answers, he kind of gets there and saying the right thing but his answers don't demonstrate a broad understanding of the issue. i go back to the question about regular tear reform. he gave an answer he would repeal all the rules proposed by the obama administration but he did not show an understanding of why it is an abuse of power. we need to go to that other step. >> when he made some of these answers like on the bank issue practically everybody else referenced his answer and agreed with what jeb bush said from kasich to trump to everybody on that stage. this was a good debate for him. it was a debate in his wheel house. these were financial and economic issues that were his sweet spot. i don't think it is the achilles