certainly what they sold on the front end of it. >> so we had two pasters on that said they would personally endorse him. there was another one who was on earlier saying he would endorse donald trump, as well. and these people have -- you know, some of them have big congregations. should this be a concern for democrats? >> well, i think what's fascinate background donald trump is that he's from the very beginning -- and i write about this in the book -- is he's operated outside the conventional rules of politics. so we've all -- everyone here has been wrong in predicting what would happen with donald trump. so, you know, the conventional wisdom would be of course donald trump has no chance at winning a sizable portion of the african-american vote. he started, laid the groundwork for his campaign by touting birther or conspiracy theories. but a lot of people thought, including me, that he wouldn't be running at this point, that he wouldn't be running the polls. so i think there's a good case to be made that anything could