but he's been very good. you know, many of them, you guys in the morning, ainsley and steve and you, you become -- you know, i used to say you were solid six, maybe a seven, but you're getting much better. you're getting great. >> it's interesting because all the people he mentions that he likes are opinion hosts. is that telling? >> right. that's right. no, chris wallace, wonderful man. his father, of course, mike set the stage. but he's tough. he's tough on trump. he's tough on everyone. brett bair, shepard smith. there's a whole bunch of people that work for fox and have worked for fox that i would hire in a moment in a good news organization. but unfortunately fox is tagged because it wants to be tagged. let's be honest about it. no one is dragging fox kicking and screaming. the poor murdochs, oh, my goodness. they like it. they like the fact they have a big audience, cable audience, and they're making money. >> let's talk a little about the g7 and what happened there. in addition to pushing for