the problem comes in, when you feel you need to defend the indefensible, which was a couple of the things he said. it wasn't defensible. and those are the things that hurt the work he's doing. when you see things that are wrong, don't defend those. in this administration, you can't be honest about what you see in front of your face. he risks losing his job. that would be a loss for everyone. he has done good work. >> let ron -- >> i'm sorry. >> go ahead, bakari. i was going to say, in addition to the racial -- >> ron, please. continue. >> in addition to the racial coding and signaling and the president's use of terms like lynching or comparing himself to african-american defendants in the criminal justice system, there's a broader argument he's always making. he is the victim. and by extension, that his voters are the victims. they are the victims of elites