>> put clowns in courage -- >> why don't they want to be on the record? don't think it helps them to be with this guy? he's drawing thousands of people at rallies and doesn't hurt them, right? you think it hurts them? >> the fact of the matter, politically, it might hurt cory gardner. we -- there are a number of people who could be actually hurt by this. >> i feel -- i see what you're saying. >> but also, the more -- frankly, right now, the more serious house, if you will, of congress, is the senate. >> right. >> and what the president did in foreign policy is outrageous. >> i think there's some else, too, there's what they'd have to say today and then there's what they would want history to record. >> yeah, go ahead, kirsten. >> i want to say quickly, i just realize, i think when i was talking to scott, i think i said democrats controlled the senate with clinton. it was the republicans but couldn't get to a supermajority. just want to clarify that. and i think the chances of very many republicans turning against trump are very low. even for cory gardner.