handling the foreign policy and even less 34% approve of his handling of isis. so they underestimated that the president needed to talk directly to the mile an hour people. that is why we have seen him come out lately, and we have seen him touring the counter terrorism center, and all of the rest, because they want the american public to have a sense that there is a robust response in this administration even though the president has not been out there detailing it. >> very interesting, and jake mentioned it, "the new york times" story detailing this off of the record two-hour conversation. >> so-called off of the record. >> that he had with the columnists in which he outlined the concern of sending the ground troops to the syria and iraq and according to the nos"t york times" there would be 100 military personnel would die every month, and 500 coming back wounded, and it would cost $10 billion to the launch this attack, and the threat while