Them . The level of tech letters a and this country should increase. People are still a little bit too confused about the level of tracking what happens behind the scenes on web sites. There has been so much press about it that you would have to be living under a rock not to know which is maybe where the Supreme Court is located. The jones decision was mine0 mine0. Not a single justice accepted the obama administrations position that we have no expectation of privacy in public. I will also point out there does seem to be an Incredible Movement across the country against drones. Many states, almost a dozen have laws limiting drones so i think we are coming to the conclusion that just because you can fly an airplane doesnt mean we have given privacy. To care about privacy people have to be able to relate to their own lives because we can imagine what it would be like to be followed by a drunk . These are completely great questions. Asiana seneca from make an extra effort to get privacy information about reporters . I wish i knew that since im a reporter. The evidence is unfortunately leaning towards the answer being asked because there was an Inspector General report about the fbis use of National Security letters and targeting journalists and obtaining information about their phonecall records. We have seen in the gem rise in case the New York Times reporter who said his phone records were obtained for a case. I think we have to say reporters are probably in it difficult situation right now. See including the question about whether or not publishers themselves could be charged. If you dont care about privacy thats fine but i think its worth thinking about the challenge to journalists as an issue for our democracy. Journalist are supposed to be the watchdogs of democracy. If we cant have any contact confidential because everything is surveilled and we can only rely on sources and mr. Breccia like snowdon we wont have the ability to be a watchdog on our government. Its a question for society to grapple with. Have there have been many or any legal cases where all my data has been used against defendants or job applicants . Im not sure if there have been explicitly. One of the problems with this information is that oftentimes you would know why but its pretty difficult for an employer i would imagine to get the on line password. Based on First Amendment issues and surveillance concerns why should we discuss this issue on twitter with the Constitution Center . [laughter] thats great. You know thats a good question. People ask me all the time why i am on twitter. I quit facebook. It didnt quite quit. I left a little page that says im not here. Im on twitter. I think twitter is a little more clear about its issues. His public broadcast like publishing in the newspaper. I put in there what i would write for consumption by the whole world. But i dont like about facebook and linked in is that your associations and lists of friends and contacts are public. We all think we are incredibly incredibly that would basically like the same movies and music. Our associations can be very revealing. And Twitter Facebook and google have different standards for free speech. Twitter is the most speech protected and will only take down speech that threatens and is intended to provoke the muslims limitless limitless action where facebook and google have more speech if it offends a religious standard. Twitter has been aggressive on defense and its users rights. C on that point would have been a world where google and facebook have more power over who is private than any king or president or Supreme Court justice and yet the first and Fourth Amendments apply to the government and not to google. Do we need a constitutional amendment to protect free speech against google and facebook and privacy in the digital age . Wow i havent thought about that before. Thats an interesting question. I do think we have to sort of evaluate when we go on to facebook and google we think of our choice as being in the Public Square and a town hall in any way we are kind of the north korea like the totalitarian dictatorship where, where were they decide is the rule for free speech. We have to think about personally my decision as lets not have the speech there. Im opting out to a different way but you could also force them to try to have free speech. There is a precedent for Telecom Companies having to abide by some standards. Thats a possibility. We unfortunately i could continue this all afternoon. You and your book talks about reform treaty were skeptical about the consent model because you think people might sell their privacy in exchange for a toaster. You like transparency as Louis Brandeis didnt you like the fair credit reporting act which tells people how much is being collected and you have five questions that should be asked of every digital dragnet to decide whether or not its fair or legal. Should i read them . Does the dragnet provide individuals with legal rights to access as the dragnet is too intrusive for his purpose does it benefit society doesnt fall into the ugly abyss of racism or other prejudice . Cannot withstand public scrutiny . These are questions that i think jurors at the time of the framing of the Fourth Amendment would have passed. Tell us more about these principles. I wish it was more optimistic but i think i feel im asking for not that much. I just feel that i wouldnt mind trading my data for services if i could have some assurances that if it was used against me i would have some rights. I could challenge the data and i could see it that i could sue over it and it was being used as a public benefit. It wasnt to be used against me. I came up with these standards is my own thoughts about what would i want to trade my data and feel confident. I feel we are in the information economy and its going to be although ive tried to opt out its not actually practical. What i would rather do is participate freely and have some assurances that i wont be packed. We have assurances that Safety Measures are taken and we have redress if something goes wrong and i want a similar standard for treatment of my data. Wonderful. Ladies and gentlemen and her cspan audience as well first of all come downstairs dumpsters and by julius wonderful book and cspan go to amazon and use an anonymous user. Please join me in thanking julia angwin. [applause] my dad had an eighth grade education and my mom and fifthgrade education and yet they believed in the promise of this country and they were seeking better opportunities for their children. So they worked really hard and sacrificed as so many latinos and hispanics have done in this country because they wanted that Better Future for their children and they believed in the promise of this country. They really taught us important values that have been our guide for our lives for me and my six brothers and sisters but they taught us the importance of family of faith, of Community Hard work, sacrifice honesty integrity. All of those were important values that they shared with us. Coming up adam tanner talks about the collection of private data by companies and what it means for privacy. He uses Caesars Entertainment which mr. Tanner says has perfected the practice of gathering personal data from its customers. He spoke at the Florida University school of law in new york city. Im glad to be with you here. I thought it would start to talk this afternoon going back in time a quartercentury to an episode that was briefly mentioned and that was in the final years of communism in Eastern Europe, 1988 in east berlin. Now at the time this was one of the strictest countries, one of the most communist countries and the economist block like moscow. I had the opportunity to visit their number of times. In 1988 in particular something quite interesting happened. I visited dresden which is the Cultural Capital of germany they of germany is a wellknown as being bombed during world war ii and at the time a city that was famous monuments were still in rubble. During that day i was followed by the secret police. I just want to give you a quick indication of what the times looked like back then. Heres a picture of a store in east berlin in 1988. You see a long line of people trying to get bread. There is war damage on the building. There were Better Things in extra workers could have done with their time but they thought it was a good idea to follow me around on this august day in 1988. This is me taking notes on the streets. They took secret photos of me and they followed me around minute by minute trying to assess what i was up to during the day. As you go forward a little bit of this year is the outline of the 60 page file just for that day. Heres what it says for example. At 8 00 it has become. Ive left the hotel npk w. Which is on the mobile. I was traveling in style back then. At 8 55 i arrived at the opera and so on and so on. They make a lot of data and if you read the file in greater detail you see what i was up to a lot of detail. Some of it is comical because im wandering around in wandering around at one point it says 10 57 he is looking at a map and 11 01 still looking at a map and 11 03 asking a passerby for directions. You may say well what has aroused the interest of the secret police and one of the most efficient states of the continental world at that time lexus is what i was up to. I was writing a travel guidebook of Eastern Europe and yugoslavia on 25 a day. The interesting thing about that is even though i had efficient secret Police Following me during that time they knew little about me compared to what corporate interests know about most people in the United States today. Information gathering in the electronic era and the internet era is much easier to gather and accumulated to one place over time investigating a much more detailed profile. So i began to wonder who collected data about us today and what do these people look like . Thats one of the motivations of my book what stays in vegas. I wanted to reflect on his gathering data and what impact does it have . I was surprised by how many people gather data and in fact who they are. Heres a little test case example. This is someone who gathers data and perhaps the person who is the most surprising data gatherer that i have come across in my research. Can anyone gas . Its a 70yearold man who was once considered a god. This is jimmy page of led zeppelin. If you go to the site jimmy page. Com use the site to be go to go down the page. Psu for your first name, your last name your email address on a date of birth. He wants all the information just jesse can go into jimmy page. Com. The story is the jimmy page with wild rock n roll or his gathering information about you. Another story he was referencing before that i wanted to tell was the way i came to the realization about how everyone is affected in different ways. No one is really exempt from the collection of data about them in todays dossier world. This is president gerald ford. He died when i was working as a correspondent in san francisco. He was old and it was expected he would die. The obituary ran that evening california time in the next day i thought how can i get Something Else to say about gerald ford this man who was in the public eye for such a long time. I thought interesting way to do it would be to try to find this man chevy chase who as an actor 40 years ago in the first episodes of saturday night live portrayed the president as a bumbler. He would come in and stumble over the desk falling over and so when creating humorous routine. Typically when you want to find a celebrity you call an agent or lawyer or publicity person and it usually takes days or weeks to setup set up an interview. But when youre working for a wire Service Speed as though the essence. I looked into a dossier file of the company to specialize in gathering information about people. I looked up his name and i couldnt find him but i found the name and number for his wife. I called the number and i said i would like to reach chevy chase, heres what im doing. She said im not mrs. Chase, i am his daughter. He is with me right now but we are on top of mountain in colorado skiing so he will call you back when we get to the bottom of the mountain. 30 minutes of phone rings and its chevy chase. I ran the article on the wire and everything is fine and that evening the phone rings again and chevy chase calls again and he says listen i was thinking about this. How the hill did you get my daughters cell phone number . Binnie said the following. I knew some guy whod make fun of gerald ford in 1976 and i prefer to be left alone. At that point i realized celebrities politicians and sports heroes ordinary people everyone earn the databases for data brokers collecting Companies Collect and he cannot be exempt very easily. So i thought of an interesting way to explore this with the world of las vegas. The reason for this is several fold. First of course las vegas has such a huge amount of money. The other reason why las vegas is interesting as Public Records are gathered there. Public records at the base of what data brokers use about people. They gather wedding documents so more people are married in las vegas than anywhere else. So you can think of Elvis Presley and many people over time who have been married in las vegas. Those documents become Public Record that anyone can look up and find out Contact Details from people. Also there are more surveillance cameras in private spaces in las vegas than other places and they have some of the most sophisticated programs in gathering data on customers that exist now and we will go into that and a little bit of time. Vegas is an iconic place around the world. I was traveling in istanbul and wandering through the streets and i came across an unusual sight. It was a woman in full dress covered from head to foot in traditional muslim style and there was a man in a tshirt that said nevada las vegas. Even in the different parts of all different cultures las vegas is an emblematic of this wild world. My way to get into that was to look at caesars and Caesars Palace the flagship property of the worlds biggest casino company. Now the man behind caesars is the ceo today is an especially interesting figure in the history of casino bosses. If you think of siegel and some of the others you may have seen in movies Lefty Rosenthal portrayed by Robert De Niro in casino this is a different breed nowadays. He is someone he got his ph. D. At m. I. T. And then went on to become a junior professor at Harvard Business school. And at Harvard Business school typically you work four days a week and on the fifth day you are a consultant to an outside company. This article called the service profit change. Translated that means how do you get someone to be a Loyal Customer over time because if you come to my pizzeria today and you buy one slice of pizza thats worth 1 dollar but if i can get it to come year after year over a lifetime that may be worth seven or 8000. The lifetime revenue stream can be a thousand dollars and a cadillac owner 232,000 a corporate purchaser of aircraft to literally billions of dollars. His idea was how do we do this in the casino world . The problem with casinos is the games are in essence exactly the same. The odds are the same in each place. I can play or the slot machine or the roulette wheel in any of these casinos. Of course they dont have gondoliers and dancing fountains but his concept was to try to build a program that was going to keep you coming back by knowing more about you in gathering more data about you. Back in the olden days in the Twilight Zone the only place the machine could actually know anything about you. This is a 1960s episode called the fever in which a player calls Franklin Gibbs is called by the slot machine. He becomes obsessed that the slot machine calls out his name. Franklin, franklin and it beckoned him over. In todays world the slot machine often does know who you are and theres a huge amount of information about you based on the Loyalty Program. I want to step back for a moment and tell you about the history of the to ban which is the heart of a lot of consumer Data Collection in todays world. The image in the background here you see green stamps which in decades before were given out when he would buy things at the supermarket for example and you might get 100 stamps if you bought 100 worth of groceries and a certain amount of time he would have enough to get a toaster or some other reward. The problem with those oldstyle programs as they did know who you were until that day you showed up and put down your coupon book and said id like my toaster. But the Company Really wanted to do more. Who are my valuable customers and how do i cater to you the best . The best solution was the modernday airline program. The airline in 1981 introduces the modern program. They tried to check passengers surreptitiously to figure out john smith is going every week to london. Lets give him a special offer so he flies only with us. The problem with that method failed its people were using different phone numbers and addresses and they werent able to track people to find out who their best customers were. So they said let us offer some reward preflight so we can track our her best customers. From this idea almost instantly after A