to a one time friend of surrogate magnitsky bill browder is head of the investment fund hermitage capital management which was once the largest foreign portfolio investor in russia he led a campaign to punish russian officials for magnitsky his death and later lobbied the u.s. congress to pass the magnitsky act bill browder joins us from london good to have you won t. w. bell i know that magnitsky was your lawyer when he said he uncovered massive fraud by russian officials so what do you make of the verdict from the european court of justice today. well 1st and foremost this is 10 years in the coming magnitsky family and myself and various other friends of sergei magnitsky have been fighting for justice for 10 years and so it's nice and it's a big vindication for his family that he's gotten justice 2nd and more importantly the russian government has been lying and spreading propaganda about sergei