defense minister who is suggesting there should be an internationally controlled security zone in northern syria kind of a controversial idea did that come up in the talks today. well it came up in the press conference but let me emphasize this is a proposal by the german defense minister not by germany's foreign minister there is no agreement within the german coalition government about this plan and this is of course something the tucker side clearly noticed so they said you know there is no agreement in the german government once they have a plan they can approach as we'll have a look at it and we of course appreciate any kind of help with our safe zone plan there but in the end. i dismiss this plan as a realistic could turkey it seems that is determined to go ahead with its own so-called safe zone plan so 1st to clear the area of the kurdish fighters which