trump, obama back to bush were told over and over don't just worry with a bioterror attack. worry about something like this virus. we didn't listen. we weren't ready and obviously now we have restocked and of course are. >> brian: now it seems we fear got the cold war and mutually assured destruction and vladimir putin got very close to a couple of nuclear power plants, a second one yesterday. are we ready for a nuclear attack? >> no one is ready for a nuclear attack. the one thing the government learned when they studied it back in the 1950s and 60's is they had operation high point which is where the president goes and hide him in secret. they also had operation low point which is what happens to you and i. what about to the average citizen? do you know what they figured out? we are in trouble. >> brian: louisville. we are doomed. how do you convince these people to give you this access? >> i started researching this book five years ago. and it let -- no one cared about the stockpile. they're like yeah, come, in you can show your readers this mystery, thrillers, all the fun. but then obviously covid hit and all the doors shut. i just happened to get there and