but i honestly think rights now he would be so angry, i've even spoken to some of his marine brothers, they're angry. they want -- you know, they feel that it was, you know, part of their life gone for what reason, and all i can tell them right now is they can't give up, you know. i know they're -- they can't give up because if they give up, again, what has jacob fought for, what has aaron died for? we just can't give up. we can't let them give up. but the government has failed them. failed them tremendously. >> billy, i know that aaron died on-board extortion 17, may of 2010. he served in in seal team one for many years. he completed numerous deployments around the world including after gap stan and iraq. we're -- afghanistan and iraq. we're seeing photos on the screen you now. what do you think he would say this morning. >> let me correct you, august