the cases are down 23%. the hospitalizations and deaths are down 17% or 18%. so we're going in the right direction. the problem is, as we all know, we still have approximately 66 million people who are eligible to be vaccinated who are not vaccinated. the degree to which we continue to come down in that slope will depend on how well we do about getting more people vaccinated. if we don't do very well in that regard, there's always the danger that there will be enough circulating virus that you can have a stalling of the diminishing of the number of cases and when that happens, as we've seen in the of past with other waves that we've been through, there's the danger of resurgence. but we can do something about that. that's the whole point that we keep emphasizing. the more people we get vaccinated, the less likelihood is there going to be another surge as we go into the winter. chris: briefly, what is your advice for the l holiday season for travel, for gathering